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West Bromwich Albion vs. Arsenal: open thread

WEST BROMWICH ENGLAND - FEBRUARY 01:  Marc-Antoine Fortune celebrates scoring the second goal for West Brom during the Barclays Premier League match between West Bromwich Albion and Wigan Athletic at The Hawthorns on February 1 2011 in West Bromwich England.  (Photo by Richard Heathcote/Getty Images)

Kickoff: Today, March 19, 11 AM EDT
The Hawthorns, West Bromwich
Televisual coveragence: Fox Soccer Plus, foxsoccer.tv (subscribers only)

West Bromwich AlbionArsenal.  Feel free to comment on all the action below.

The club's twitter just announced that Aaron Ramsey is starting!

Arsenal: Almunia, Sagna, Koscielny, Squillaci, Clichy, Wilshere, Denilson, Nasri, Ramsey, Arshavin, Van Persie.

Subs via Arseblog: Lehmann, Rosicky, Eboue, Gibbs, Chamakh, Miquel, Bendtner.

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Ramsey!

Time to stir a little Welshman into the pot! Cmon Gunners!

Turf Show Times editor, Mocking the Draft writer, and I gots that Twitter too, yo.
"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan

by 3k on Mar 19, 2011 10:55 AM EDT reply actions  

dammit

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on Mar 19, 2011 11:04 AM EDT reply actions  

And there we go

already down 1. Cmon Gunners, get it together…

Turf Show Times editor, Mocking the Draft writer, and I gots that Twitter too, yo.
"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan

by 3k on Mar 19, 2011 11:05 AM EDT reply actions  

And right as Bolton had a magnificent chance on Man U

cmon. We need the chips to fall to us today

Turf Show Times editor, Mocking the Draft writer, and I gots that Twitter too, yo.
"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan

by 3k on Mar 19, 2011 11:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Hmm

Kicking it out or to the other team seemed, from my watching, to be practically his only “contribution” to the team.

by KC Gunner on Mar 19, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

gave us advantage until he pulled it out

good refereeing

Turf Show Times editor, Mocking the Draft writer, and I gots that Twitter too, yo.
"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan

by 3k on Mar 19, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Diff tackles

Got the yellow for a foul on rvp

by KC Gunner on Mar 19, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

my feed is so blurry

Hard to tell who’s who. Even Arshavin looks tall enough to be a human.

Turf Show Times editor, Mocking the Draft writer, and I gots that Twitter too, yo.
"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan

by 3k on Mar 19, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

no card?

For a tackle from behind to be that purposeful, I’m surprised he didn’t see yellow

Turf Show Times editor, Mocking the Draft writer, and I gots that Twitter too, yo.
"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan

by 3k on Mar 19, 2011 11:15 AM EDT reply actions  

The rulebook

Given to refs assigned to arsenal games must have a section encouraging lenience for the opposition’s strategy of “getting up at ’em” and “kicking ‘em to let ’em know they’re in for a tussle.”

by KC Gunner on Mar 19, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

go gunners!

Captain, there are doubt's...

"It’s a good opportunity to show we have the strength to respond" - Arsene Wenger, 2011

by Match Day 5 on Mar 19, 2011 11:23 AM EDT reply actions  

He’s gone next year.

by Learn2Leaf on Mar 19, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dont be so sure

fabianski remains on our roster despite scads of howlers last year. Wenger watched alex song become very good after some poor performances. I dont think he can bear to kill the potential of his beloved young talents he finds.

by KC Gunner on Mar 19, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Vintage denilson

Giveaway and fairly relaxed “tracking back”

by KC Gunner on Mar 19, 2011 11:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Morning all

MMA > The UFC
@RealRenny

by Renny on Mar 19, 2011 11:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Ah shitburgers

finish

Turf Show Times editor, Mocking the Draft writer, and I gots that Twitter too, yo.
"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan

by 3k on Mar 19, 2011 11:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Scharner

Follows up his nasty tackle on rvp with one on jack. Amazing he does not have a yellow.

by KC Gunner on Mar 19, 2011 11:32 AM EDT reply actions  

gah

took that in too quickly. Good link up. Man U is putting Bolton under. They’re going to get one before the half

Turf Show Times editor, Mocking the Draft writer, and I gots that Twitter too, yo.
"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan

by 3k on Mar 19, 2011 11:35 AM EDT reply actions  

?

52-48 possession in favor of Man U and they’ve had 6 shots

Turf Show Times editor, Mocking the Draft writer, and I gots that Twitter too, yo.
"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan

by 3k on Mar 19, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Sky Sports announcer

We HAVE the goalie, center back and holding midfielder. They are all hurt.

by scott553 on Mar 19, 2011 11:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Right

But just one DM. That has been a weakness since wenger let gilberto and flamini go without replacing them. It’s been glaring for about 3-4 years.

by KC Gunner on Mar 19, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Shouldn’t be a card

MMA > The UFC
@RealRenny

by Renny on Mar 19, 2011 11:38 AM EDT reply actions  

If the late slide from behind on Ramsey wasn’t then that shouldn’t have been. Consistency would be nice.

MMA > The UFC
@RealRenny

by Renny on Mar 19, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

good turn by RVP

withholding comment on that take

Turf Show Times editor, Mocking the Draft writer, and I gots that Twitter too, yo.
"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan

by 3k on Mar 19, 2011 11:49 AM EDT reply actions  

What a fucking joke

Yeah, let’s put the 5’10 Ramsey on Steven Reid, then look confused when he powers it in the back of the net.
Let’s aimlessly cross it for the fucking 5’7 Arshavin.
Ramsey has been non existent. Except when he missed the ball and let Steven Reid head it, and when he missed from 3 yards.
Wilshere hasn’t been involved. I wish Denilson hadn’t been either. Sagna and Clichy are clueless, Arshavin and Nasri little better.

Squeezed to Song and Bendtner and Song and Nasri oh lovely lovely lovely!
-Peter Drury, the one time his commentating has ever been acceptable.

by Aidan Gibson on Mar 19, 2011 11:54 AM EDT reply actions  

I hate to say it

But we need some leadership here — from wenger or someone on the pitch — to get fired up and play the second half with the urgency, passion and importance the circumstances demand — in the thick of the title race with a handful of games to go.

by KC Gunner on Mar 19, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fuck leadership

We need someone who actually knows what they’re doing. Having leadership isn’t going to change that.

Squeezed to Song and Bendtner and Song and Nasri oh lovely lovely lovely!
-Peter Drury, the one time his commentating has ever been acceptable.

by Aidan Gibson on Mar 19, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

To me this has looked like an uninspired and listless turd of a performance. These players, deni apart, are good and know what they are doing.

by KC Gunner on Mar 19, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

West Brom are defending deep and narrow

like all teams do against Arsenal.
Without Cesc and Theo, we resort to lumping it in to the mixer.
They’ll play on the counter, and Odimwingie can jog past Squillaci and Koscielny

Squeezed to Song and Bendtner and Song and Nasri oh lovely lovely lovely!
-Peter Drury, the one time his commentating has ever been acceptable.

by Aidan Gibson on Mar 19, 2011 11:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Denilson off for Chamakh

Hard not to appreciate that change

Turf Show Times editor, Mocking the Draft writer, and I gots that Twitter too, yo.
"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan

by 3k on Mar 19, 2011 12:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Truth

Tho perhaps overdue. Nice to have seen it mid first half. Send a message.

by KC Gunner on Mar 19, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha

Hahahhaha. That’s just ridiculous, Almunia.

Turf Show Times editor, Mocking the Draft writer, and I gots that Twitter too, yo.
"my keyboard won't corporate, neighter will my smell check." - Knoxfan

by 3k on Mar 19, 2011 12:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Jens

Might return sooner than anyone thought.

by KC Gunner on Mar 19, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wenger

Great call not to get a keeper in august or january. Stellar.

by KC Gunner on Mar 19, 2011 12:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Haha

Fabianski is terrible. He doesnt count. Alumnia, as we just saw, is not a title winning gk. Scz had not played a minute in the EPL in august. And no way we had four in jan. Who are you counting?

by KC Gunner on Mar 19, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

And have their two best central defenders out for the season

by fritts on Mar 19, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fabianski

Is just not a top two gk for a title challenging side. He cost us points at home with a howlrr v newc, getting outjumped by an outfield player (albeit a tall one…still, gk can use hands!!). Szczesny had not played in august, and we were extremely fortunate he adjusted so well so quickly. Wenger cld not have known that, only hoped it. And hope is not a plan. Alas, it seems among wenger’s primary strategies – hope deni finally fulfills somr early potential, hope fabianski puts repeated hoelers behind him to play like in practice, etc

by KC Gunner on Mar 19, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I understand what you're saying

but if he had gone and bought anyone else, and they got injured as our players have, we’d be right where we are now, too, no?

by Ted Harwood on Mar 19, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok, sure

We have had poor luck with injuries. As always. And injuries to players in positions we are and have been short for years now (def mid and gk – never really found worthy successor to jens).

by KC Gunner on Mar 19, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is true

I really like him and think he could own the position for a decade. But I am not sure it we made the right decisions in august. We got realky really luck woj settled in so well. And equally unlucky with the injury.

by KC Gunner on Mar 19, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fabianski made one mistake against Newcastle, yes

But if you remember, he won the game for us against Wolves, Everton and did very very well against City

Squeezed to Song and Bendtner and Song and Nasri oh lovely lovely lovely!
-Peter Drury, the one time his commentating has ever been acceptable.

by Aidan Gibson on Mar 19, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lucky for kos

Crowd wanted red and it wouldn’t have entirely unwarranted.

by KC Gunner on Mar 19, 2011 12:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Horrendous

This central defense is going to be unwatchable for the run-in. We might not qualify for CL.

THAT'S RIGHT, Kenny Wheaton you did. You cut back into GREATNESS.

by HoodRiverDuck on Mar 19, 2011 12:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Shocker

Glad I wrote this season off after that Carling Cup disaster, makes this easier to take.

by bahns on Mar 19, 2011 12:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Embarrassment

MMA > The UFC
@RealRenny

by Renny on Mar 19, 2011 12:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Well this place has certainly lost all perspective.

This is a good team, in a bad run of form that got injured. We don’t need a new goalkeeper, we don’t need to go spend spend spend on anyone. Yes, we are all disappointed that it looks like we are going to go trophyless again. But I’d rather be in this position rather than be Chelsea or Liverpool.

by scott553 on Mar 19, 2011 12:30 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Thanks, Ted

I get really frustrated when our own fans fall into the media narrative of “Arsenal just don’t have it.” Whatever the hell “it” is.

by scott553 on Mar 19, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

When they show up, with a week to get focused, against the 17th place team in the league and play that terribly for 70 minutes it is very tempting to say they “just don’t have it.”

by 38Noles on Mar 19, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate to say I agree

Esp when this keeps repeating – last year with wigan, our fading in 07-08. We keep making it to march or april right in contention, but then tend to fluff it up. Snd oft eith terrible goalkeeping – fabianski at wigan, manuel today.

by KC Gunner on Mar 19, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only year lately that we haven’t faded about this time was when we were fighting for 4th place and knew there was no way we could possibly win the league.

by 38Noles on Mar 19, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's kind of what I'd expect from a team dealing with as many injuries as us.

Captain, there are doubt's...

"It’s a good opportunity to show we have the strength to respond" - Arsene Wenger, 2011

by Match Day 5 on Mar 19, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Other teams

also have injured players

by KC Gunner on Mar 19, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Manchester United in particular, but they find a way to dig out victories (partially I suspect because they don’t rely on children as backup players).

by 38Noles on Mar 19, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

As many? To all their top players?

Is jack the only one who hasn’t been injured this year? Andrei?

Captain, there are doubt's...

"It’s a good opportunity to show we have the strength to respond" - Arsene Wenger, 2011

by Match Day 5 on Mar 19, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fucking finally

THAT'S RIGHT, Kenny Wheaton you did. You cut back into GREATNESS.

by HoodRiverDuck on Mar 19, 2011 12:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Haha

what a strange, desperate, and desperately needed, goal

by KC Gunner on Mar 19, 2011 12:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Could this game

Be the reverse of wigan away last year?

by KC Gunner on Mar 19, 2011 12:41 PM EDT reply actions  

I was thinking Bolton 2008, but we couldn’t get the penalty call this time. Maybe if we’d worn the red and blue hoops shirt lol.

by 38Noles on Mar 19, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was a great fightback

Really got my hopes up it might just be our year…

by KC Gunner on Mar 19, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Same here. The celebration behind the goal, in the rain, Cesc with that crazed look on his face…

by 38Noles on Mar 19, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmmm...

WBA: 10 fouls, 1 yellow
Arsenal: 7 fouls, 3 yellows

Captain, there are doubt's...

"It’s a good opportunity to show we have the strength to respond" - Arsene Wenger, 2011

by Match Day 5 on Mar 19, 2011 1:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Nasri’s yellow was ridiculous.

by 38Noles on Mar 19, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great last 20 minutes

But WBA tired. Still some problems, but a great comeback.
Time for Jens.
Maybe it was a pen at the end. I didn’t see the replay

Squeezed to Song and Bendtner and Song and Nasri oh lovely lovely lovely!
-Peter Drury, the one time his commentating has ever been acceptable.

by Aidan Gibson on Mar 19, 2011 1:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Agree on pen

Cannot tell at full speed whether that was a trip ot a bit of theatrics from sagna. He is not normally the type, but he may have embellished minimal contact

by KC Gunner on Mar 19, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

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