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MLS shows up Premier League by making sense

MLS today made a sound decision by suspending Brian Mullan for 10 games and fining him $5,000 for a tackle that broke the leg of Steve Zakuani. Mullen had been upset that he didn't get a foul called for him and went in completely recklessly on Zakuani. Ryan Shawcross only got the normal red card 3 games for his horrendous tackle on Ramsey. What the hell was the FA thinking by not increasing Shawcross' suspension? I'm still really angry about that. Just one thing, suspensions for players in the MLS are paid, so they continue to pick up a paycheck while they're serving their time. That's pretty wrong.

Anyway the point is, Hey FA are you paying attention you daft wankers?!?! Stop being so stupid!

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This is good

We also need to start seeing some post match red cards as well.

Captain, there are doubt's...

"It’s a good opportunity to show we have the strength to respond" - Arsene Wenger, 2011

by Match Day 5 on Apr 29, 2011 8:33 AM EDT reply actions  

SBN Cross-Promotional Alert!

Over on the Portland Timbers’ blog we were having this very same discussion.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2011 9:48 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

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by Thomas Wachtel on May 1, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

THIS HAS BEEN THE BEST SOCCER WEEKEND I'VE HAD IN YEARS!!!!!

Go to the Timbers game last night and they beat the best team in the league. Get up this morning to find that Arsenal have finally rediscovered that they’re a good team. I’m in a fantastic mood this morning.

by pdb on May 1, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really like the idea of a fine as a percentage of salary

there is absolutely no excuse for what Mullan (or Shawcross) did and the only way to make it stop is to make players pay a lot of money. To someone like a Wayne Rooney, even £25,000 is essentially parking money; if you instead say “tackles like that will cost you 10% of your yearly wage” it would really make people think twice about going in high, hard, and late like that.

And as Match Day 5 says, I would love to see some sort of review board that meets weekly, like on a Monday, to review incidents like this and has the power to hand out cards and bans after the fact. The game moves so fast and without the benefit of instant replay it’s hard for a referee or a linesman to always get calls right.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

and do it like the NFL

only make calls if it’s conclusive. Have the panel vote and if there’s doubt come out and say so. Just be more open about it.

Captain, there are doubt's...

"It’s a good opportunity to show we have the strength to respond" - Arsene Wenger, 2011

by Match Day 5 on Apr 29, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

The fine would work here, but in the MLS were people are barely making livings it is crazy. Apparently this guy was one of the higher paid guys but some people are only making 30-40 thousand a year, taking 3-4 thousand out of that is a massive blow and could take away their livelihood.

by Roa on May 1, 2011 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Again, what better incentive?

that’s the whole point of fines, is to stop this sort of behavior. If a guy knows that if he makes a bad tackle that he will lose 10% of his income, wouldn’t you think that would stop him from trying the bad tackle in the first place?

by pdb on May 2, 2011 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Please remember

that bans are almost always reduced on appeal. For no reason.

by Ben Schneider on Apr 29, 2011 7:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Still gonna be getting paid and hogging a roster spot for games he won't be playing in.

No team or coach likes that.

Captain, there are doubt's...

"It’s a good opportunity to show we have the strength to respond" - Arsene Wenger, 2011

by Match Day 5 on Apr 29, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

MLS annual salaries are about the size of Premier League weekly checks

If they tried to suspend without pay they’d have a hard time even finding players

by Stephen Schmidt on Apr 30, 2011 8:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Perhaps the fact the Shawcross got a call up soon after had something to do with the light

suspension? Plus there were many coming out in his defense, including ol’ Sir Alex Ferguson. Then we hear the same crap “He’s not that type of lad” despite his nasty tackle attempt out of bounds against Adebayor. The commentator brushed it off as “he has no respect for big names”.
Maybe there’s a culture too, in England that we don’t have here in the US. A dirty play is vilified more so than over in England. This seems to be echoed by other European players as well. What most see as a dirty or clumsy tackle is “getting stuck in” “having a go” or “letting him know you’re there”. Perhaps that has something to do with all of our injury problems over the last few years. Not saying this doesn’t exist elsewhere, but it seems more acceptable in England especially if it’s an English player doing tackle against a foreigner.
Was it last year when Nasri or Arshavin or Eduardo was accused of diving in the box, and the media went after him with venom? The upon close replay inspection, found he was made contact with. But the Shawcross, and that prick from Birmingham that did in Eduardo were defended as good lads that would never do that?
The fact that the English media gives praise to “managers” like Allerdyce or what ever that fat idiot is called with his horrible negative football is also worrying to me.
Toughness is part of the game, but it seems that it goes too far in England sometimes. The culture needs to change not only for the safety of the players, and the beauty of the best league in the world, but to insure that talentless thugs are exposed, and never see the light of day that is the Premier league. Let them wallow in non-league. Barton, Shawcross, and Taylor can go play non-league where maybe they would be considered class. In top flight, they’re pretty much classless.
Love what the MLS has done here, keep the game clean. Now, just get some relegation/promotion going, and it would be even better!

If you work for a living, why do you kill yourself working?

by JaviLouis on May 1, 2011 12:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Relegation/promotion will never work in the US

Most MLS teams aren’t financially sound enough to survive a drop – their economics work in MLS, but if they were to drop down to where they were playing tiny teams in lower divisions, outside SEA/PDX and maaaaybe NYRB, nobody will go see a former MLS team play those games. Hell, even the Timbers only drew about 8,000 a night most nights in USL (as opposed to almost 19,000/night now).

Plus, right now there’s no viable lower league to promote from or relegate to – USL’s hanging on by a thread, and there’s really nothing else. MLS has been rumored to want to create “MLS 2” for a while now, which would serve as a sort of D-League for MLS, but I’m not sure they’re going to use it to promote/relegate.

by pdb on May 1, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

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