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Arsenal link roundup for Sunday, August 14 b/w further thoughts on the Barton brouhaha

NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE, ENGLAND - AUGUST 13:  Joey Barton of Newcastle goes to ground clutching his head after a clash with Gervinho of Arsenal during the Barclays Premier League match between Newcastle United and Arsenal at St James' Park on August 13, 2011 in Newcastle upon Tyne, England.  (Photo by Shaun Botterill/Getty Images)

Morning, everybody, or just about, anyway. Here are your Arsenal links for today, interspersed with thoughts about what incidents yesterday.

Before we get into yesterday, two things to check out tactically:

How Arsenal have been shaping up for 2011/12 [Arsenal Column]

Tomas Rosicky 2010/2011 (also check out all his other player reviews) [Backwards Gooner]

And now, to yesterday:

Star-divide

SBNation's Newcastle blog Coming Home Newcastle has their thoughts here. Check it out.

Sagna: We showed the right kind of spirit [Arsenal.com]

A sense of injustice: Newcastle vs. Arsenal match report [A Cultured Left Foot]

Newcastle 0-0 Arsenal: Gunners remain unbeaten [Arseblog]

However, that Barton escaped with just a yellow is ludicrous. That he’s been booked means no further action can be taken and the referee and his assistants have demonstrated once again that this is a rule which has to be changed. They didn’t see the full extent of Barton’s aggression, otherwise he’d have been gone too. There is no other way to classify what he did except violent conduct. Their ineptitude means justice was not done.

Arsène Wenger defends Gervinho after his sending off at Newcastle [Observer]

That much is true, though the letter of the law is that raising one's hands constitutes violent conduct, so Gervinho will now be looking at a three-match ban, unless Arsenal manage to successfully appeal. Pardew advised them not to bother.

This needs a little clarification: nowhere in the laws of the game is punching, slapping, or raising hands specifically addressed. This must be said, because almost every single commentary about the incident yesterday mentions that act as the reason Gervinho was sent off (the Observer, here, at least makes it clear that it constituted the violent conduct for which Gervinho saw red).

Let's be clear: Gervinho was sent off because what he did, slapping Barton, was adjudged by Peter Walton as violent conduct. And that is fine. It is the referee's discretion, and Walton made a judgement. But "raising one's hands" is not a straight red every single time. It's just not.

And, having watched the incident again, two four things:

  1. It was not a dive. Please, everyone in the world, stop saying it was a dive. Henry Winter, in a column in the telegraph which is horrible, and which I will not link to, said it was a dive. Alan Pardew said it was a dive. It was NOT A DIVE. There was contact. If what Frank Lampard did earlier today is not a dive, then Gervinho's fall yesterday was not a dive. He was tripped, softly or no. The referee said play on.
  2. Once the referee said play on, THERE WAS NO NEED WHATSOEVER for Joey Barton to take any kind of action. The central problem with what happened yesterday is that Barton felt he had to take matters into his own hands. He then picked up Gervinho, violently, by his collar, jerking him to his feet and shaking him, all while screaming in his face. Gervinho tried to separate himself, and when he couldn't, he slapped Barton, and the rest goes pretty much according to Arseblog's description, linked above.
  3. Read Arseblog's piece again. It's excellent, particularly in his description of what kind of bully Barton is.
  4. I no longer want to consider signing Barton, except perhaps to keep him from aggravating Arsenal's players.

Anyway; have a good day, everyone. Udinese coming up this week; more on that tomorrow.

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I sort of hate myself

for saying we should go in for Barton.

Thus Spoke Keith Hernandez

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by Thomas Wachtel on Aug 14, 2011 2:13 PM EDT reply actions  

i hope you're not still saying that.

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by silverace99 on Aug 14, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not, believe me.

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by Thomas Wachtel on Aug 14, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha

You know I was thinking about that campaign when this happened.

But honestly, a d-bag bully who repeatedly gets away with it is — hey, that sounds like a nice weapon to have!

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by Dominik on Aug 17, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

is it true barton can't get suspended because he got a yellow for the incident

if so that is the biggest crock of shit I have ever heard.

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on Aug 14, 2011 4:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes. It's ludicrous.

Usual FA protocol is to not “overrule” an official if something has been either given out during the match such as a card or written in the match report. The FA usually only retroactively deals with incidents that were not dealt with by the official either during the match or in his match report.

Which, is of course, ridiculous, since when you’re the authoritative body of a sport in a country, the official’s power derives from you (& the rulebook, of course). But the FA doesn’t overrule officials if incidents are reported for fear of weakening their authority on match day.

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by Curtis Bleaux on Aug 15, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps they should hire referees who aren't so sensitive and insecure.

Captain, there are doubt's...

"It’s a good opportunity to show we have the strength to respond" - Arsene Wenger, 2011

by Match Day 5 on Aug 15, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kudos, props, and many recs for using the term "b/w"

I feel all nostalgic for my record collection, now.

by pdb on Aug 14, 2011 5:48 PM EDT reply actions  

We should use some of the Cesc money to sign Barton

Put him on the reserve squad bench for a game and then never play him again.

Captain, there are doubt's...

"It’s a good opportunity to show we have the strength to respond" - Arsene Wenger, 2011

by Match Day 5 on Aug 14, 2011 8:13 PM EDT reply actions  

as much as I would enjoy that,

Barton would have to agree to join us. Which he wouldn’t if he knew he was going to get screwed. Or he would, but only with some super high wage and then we’d be screwing ourselves.

Or he’d be afraid of getting killed in his sleep by Diaby and Gervinho.

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by silverace99 on Aug 15, 2011 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

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