Dear New York Times: Stay Away From Arsenal Reporting
If you don't already know, Wednesday's New York Times featured an article about Arsenal on the first page of the sports section. Setting the tone for the article was a picture of the Old Trafford scoreboard after that game. Quite frankly, I found this article to be the complete difference to their moniker, "all the news that's fit to print". This article wasn't fit to print, for the reasons below.
LONDON - Fewer than two dozen Arsenal supporters gathered at the Herbert Chapman pub near Emirates Stadium, hoping to raise a glass in triumph but resigned to lower expectations.
Ahem, typo. It's not "pub near Emirates Stadium". You're missing a definitive article, NYT. Unless you want to be awkward sounding. Also, it sounds like these fans are at a funeral. Is it Herbert Chapman's funeral? If it isn't, the comparison used is kind of awful.
"We're getting less and less people here as Arsenal get worse and worse," Emily Burr, 19, the bartender, said of the thin crowd before Tuesday's Champions League match from Germany began on the pub's big-screen television.
Why are you complaining about not having glory-seeking bastards? Oh, right. Bad for business. Well, blame Chapman then. If he doesn't die, then Wenger doesn't manage now, and we're not in this situation. Manage through pneumonia, asshole! He set a bad precedent for excuses, the softy.
"The next day at work, there was no banter, only pity and understanding," said Albert Davies, 50, a government employee. "That's even more of an insult."
You obviously live in a work area where noone has the brains to make a crappy "I'd 8-2 be an Arsenal fan right now" pun. It sounds really really dull. Oh, that's right. You're a civil servant. I forgot. You're whole life is meant to be dull, with only sophisticated jokes there because you're all from Oxbridge (on a tangent, Yes Minister is brilliant. Really, really brilliant.).
He sat in the Chapman pub, named after a former Arsenal manager and decorated in the team’s red and white colors, awaiting the start of Tuesday’s match against Borussia Dortmund, the defending Bundesliga champion. In 2006, Arsenal reached the Champions League final, but those days seem distant, perhaps irretrievable. These days, Arsenal fans are confronted with the notion that one of England’s most successful teams is on the decline.
Saying the days of 2006 are irretrievable is over-exaggeration. Obviously, a team that's consistently in the Champions League and top 4 or 5 of the Premier League will never ever get to the Champions League final (note--not even winning it. Just getting to the final). Also, I wouldn't say Arsenal are on the decline. A short term loss of form compared with previous successful years? Yes. But these sort of things happen. Look at Liverpool. Actually, that's a bad example. They're actually a team on the decline, what with the whole not winning the league since some whinging Scot called Dalglish was the manager and another whinging Scot was in defence (yet the media never mention that. Hmmm). Arsenal aren't at their level; for one thing, we still have Champions League football, and are closer to winning the league than they are (not that it makes us title contenders--we're not, unless we go on a great run of form that includes beating Chelsea and City).
The vision and speed of midfielder Jack Wilshere, 19, will be unavailable for perhaps three months because of an ankle injury. The other day, Wilshere unveiled a tattoo of a woman in prayer, perhaps hinting that his - and Arsenal's season - will need divine intervention.
Two things: One. Wilshere? Speed? Really? Out of all of the things you could've talked about with regards to Jack, even the boring clichéd bs about leadership and tenacity, and you chose speed? Have you ever even watched Arsenal before, or are you winging it? It's gotta be the latter, given what you wrote later in that paragraph. I mean, trying to get a biblical reference out of a picture on Twitter isn't exactly in depth journalism, is it? Pulitzer, please!
It is widely believed that one month into a Premier League season that will stretch into spring, the Gunners are already playing for third place at best, maybe fourth, the lowest spot that would gain qualification again in 2012-13 for the Champions League, the world's top club tournament.
Why is that exactly a bad thing? I mean, the Champions League is pretty good, and important. And, for the record, some traditional "big clubs" that missed out on the Champions League this year: Liverpool, Juventus, Rangers, Celtic, Feyenoord, AS Roma, Atletico Madrid, and Paris St Germain. That seems like a list of some pretty damn good Champions League/European Cup/Cup Winners Cup teams over the years. Too bad they have the Europa League, at best.
Arsenal's only Premier League victory came last weekend on a 1-0 gift from Swansea City - a ball rolled from a goalkeeper into the heel of a defender, then a pouncing response from Andrey Arshavin, who stuck out his tongue impishly upon scoring, acknowledging luck over design.
Because actually reporting that Arsenal dominated the game and could've won 2 or 3 nil with a bit more luck and better finishing from Ramsey takes too much effort. Still, no matter. It's not like it's the truth or anything, right, or your actual job. Also, that's how Arshavin always, always celebrates. Again, have you ever watched Arsenal?
But, in his 16th season, fans and reporters have grown fidgety.
One question: WHY THE HELL SHOULD REPORTERS BE GROWING FIDGETY? AREN'T JOURNALISTS SUPPOSED TO BE UNBIASED AND INDEPENDENT OR DID I MISS SOMETHING?
Is Wenger's approach outdated? Did he wait too long to make roster moves when it seemed inevitable that Fàbregas and Nasri would leave as this season began? Did his late signings of Mikel Arteta, 29, and Yossi Benayoun, 31, in midfield represent a practical departure from his usual methods or full-on panic?
Yeah, that stupid Wenger, not signing replacements for players who didn't leave until the last two weeks of the window, screwing over plans to buy players like Mario Götze and Eden Hazard, whose clubs didn't want to sell that close to the beginning of the season. Yeah, you heard me, Wenger. It's all your fault Barcelona didn't have enough money for the paper to print Fabregas' contract on (seriously), let alone pay his market price. TRAID WENGER!!!!
"We’re in a mess," said Nick Spicer, 49, a building projects manager. "We’ve become a feeder club, developing players for everybody else."
Hi, Nick. Manchester City and Barcelona send their regards for Emmanuel Adebayor and Alex Hleb. They're really glad that Arsenal developed those two players before getting £38m for them, after which they did the grand sum of sod all for their new clubs. Wenger really missed a trick there. Sack him!
Yes, we may have lost Cesc Fabregas, Samir Nasri and Gael Clichy. But, we wanted to lose Clichy, and Fabregas is a special case. I wouldn't argue that we're becoming a feeder club; feeder clubs usually sell players who turn out to be really good. Most of the players who have left recently haven't.
Arsenal's supporters long to ask Kroenke familiar questions asked when someone else's money is on the line: Does Wenger have a sufficient budget to spend on players or is he hesitant to spend it? What are Kroenke's intentions? Does he want Arsenal to be a champion or a cash machine? Both?
Hey, a good point! Too bad that it's 800 words in. By now, I've ditched this article to go Twitter to look for any evidence of Jack Wilshere looking for divine intervention this season. Hey, if it works for the Times, it's gotta be good, investigative, mind-blowing journalism!
This is, actually, the key question surrounding Arsenal right now. The track record with Americans who own NFL teams along with soccer teams isn't great (The Glazers, Hicks and Lerner. He's on the list for hiring McLeish.). Kroenke hasn't really shown us, the fans, the ones who keep this club running, what his plan is. We're in the dark. It really requires more coverage than the Times' two paragraphs give it.
"No one can blow a lead like Arsenal," said Matt McQueen, 25, a season-ticket holder and kitchen designer.
I'm starting to see a trend here... So far, every Arsenal fan quoted has had not a single thing to say that was positive in any way. It's almost like Jere Longman has an agenda, and is avoiding unbiased reporting. But surely the Times wouldn't do something like that!
Two minutes from the end of the game, an unstoppable diving shot by Borussia Dortmund tied the score at 1-1.
What's an unstoppable diving shot? Also, "by Borussia Dortmund"? Seriously? You can look up Jack Wilshere's Tweets from a week ago but not the name of the Dortmund goalscorer? That's just lazy journalism.
"But as far as having faith, that’s something completely different."
Definitely an agenda. Dear New York Times: Stop reporting on Arsenal. Inaccurate, biased, and poorly written. It's one of the worst articles I've read about Arsenal, and that includes Paul Hayward junk.
Is not challenging for the league title somewhat disappointing? Yes, it is. But let's face it, changing managers at this stage isn't going to make us better; we just don't have the squad, nor do we have the financial clout to compete for top players like David Silva, Sergio Aguero, etc. Are we far away from winning the title? I don't think so; If we could get a player like Mario Götze or Eden Hazard, I think we'd get back that excellent technical quality that we're missing at the moment, and would also have (whisper it) squad depth. But we can't go out and buy 4 players of £20m value, unlike City and Chelsea, that's just the reality of the situation. It doesn't mean we're on a track to obscurity; just by maintaining our Champions League spot, we can attract top players and could challenge for the league title this season, though it'd require a lot of luck on our part.
But the fact that Jere Longman didn't interview any Arsenal fans who weren't negative is really disappointing. If a person who doesn't know a lot about Arsenal reads this article, they're going to get the idea that the majority of the Arsenal support are resigned to this team not being able to get out of "crisis", which, in reality, isn't true. Certainly there are fans who are worried, but it's a constant stream of negativity in the article, which ends with that last quote. If it's easier to have that negative agenda, then you shouldn't be writing the piece, because it'll just lead to an inaccurate article, which shouldn't be acceptable in a publication like the New York Times, even if it is their Sports section. Also, the point that should be developed here, about Kroenke, isn't. It's just left in two or three paragraphs, and then the article moves on about Wenger in despair. If there's anything a lot of Arsenal fans are worried about, it's the ownership of Stan Kroenke. We don't want a Hicks, we don't want a Glazer. Right now, we don't know if Kroenke will be like those two or not. Again, the fact that the Times didn't explore this point is disappointing to me, given their reputation.
Thoughts?
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Well done
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 1 Start- 9 IP, 4 H, 3 K, 0 BB, 0 ER, 14:7 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Sep 16, 2011 7:12 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Yeah Wilshere got a tattoo to hint that ONE season may need divine intervention.
Because tattoos only last like a year right? So it makes sense to get one that is only referring to one year of your life.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
This is shortlisted American journalism at it's best
They only pick out the negative things, because that’s what’s going to keep you, or any other person reading the article. Did that guy walk into Chapman’s and not see, considering it’s so close to the Emirates and all about Arsenal, all the memorabilia, all the pictures, the jerseys, etc. that represent Arsenal’s history, or listen to fan’s stories about great seasons and games, hell no, because negativity draws attraction. As far as the lack of people in the pub, that’ll happen with bandwagon fans. Watch and see how many people will jump off the Colts bandwagon this year because they’ll suck without Manning, I already know of one. Here in America, or at least among casual, common sports fans, or just young kids, if you aren’t winning, you aren’t worth watching or cheering for, off to another team. What this reporter doesn’t know, is that somewhere in the middle of England, Huddlesfield Town for example, their games draw the whole town, regardless of how well or poorly they’re doing, that’s what matters….
F.F.F.
"Do you think we need one more...? You think we need one more... Alright we'll get one more"
Funny story
at the school I work at in Indianapolis, there’s a listserv for the teachers and staff to use to post things they may have for sale, like if someone wants to have a garage sale, or someone’s daughter’s selling Girl Scout cookies. There were two postings earlier this week where teachers were looking to sell their Colts jerseys, after one game. One damn game.
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by Thomas Wachtel on Sep 16, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Argh
double post. This is what I get for TSFing at work.
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by Thomas Wachtel on Sep 16, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow
I didn’t even know that was possible. O! the wonders of the Interwebs.
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by Thomas Wachtel on Sep 16, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Now,
instead of looking silly for double posting, you look silly being upset over something that never happened! lol.
Captain, there are doubt's...
"It’s a good opportunity to show we have the strength to respond"
"C'est pourquoi quand je vais en enfer, un jour, il sera moins douloureux pour moi que vous, parce que je suis habitué à la souffrance."
- Arsene Wenger, 2011
Keith
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Dream goal!
by Aidan Gibson on Sep 16, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
On the positive side
and believe me, this is a really slight positive, this coverage doesn’t really have anything to do with it being Arsenal, or even soccer. This is pretty much exactly the same way any paper in New York covers the Mets. I don’t know if it’s symptomatic of a lack of in-depth reporting in sports journalism, or negativity in sports, or what.
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I write a bit for The Short Fuse.
This story is meant for the 99% of NYT readers who know nothing of Arsenal
It’s a shitty story that allows readers to pretend like they know something about soccer. In reality, it’s so un-informative and misleading of the actual facts that any real Arsenal fan, and most EPL fans, can see that it’s a steaming pile of shit. Stories that make people feel informed, but are actually wildly misleading are the heart and soul of the mainstream media (and that’s one of the reasons this site, and SBNation are great!). When the NYT tries to cover other topics (other than really, really important ones that most readers are informed of), they do the same thing…and it makes sense when you look at their bottom line: it’s a business based on garnering the most readers possible in a 400 word limit.
The truly funny thing is that they are way behind English media in calling Arsenal's dimise.
I mean, this story is about seven years behind the times. We should be proud, we are the only team outside of Manchester United who are ashamed to be fourth best in the entire country. Boo hoo us.
I agree – we need that one super midfielder and perhaps bolstered defense if the new guys don’t just click together and this could be a challenger again. I sincerely hope next year they try to throw a truck load of money at a big name, even if they end up losing out. Want to see just a bit of clout, for once.
Also, speaking of typos/errors:
“We’re getting less and less people here as Arsenal get worse and worse,” Emily Burr, 19, the bartender
Maybe we should forgive a 19 year-old(!?) bartender, but, ahem “fewer and fewer” not “less and less”. Sheesh. He could have interviewed intelligent people.
The difference between the two is the grammatical misunderstanding that aggravates me the most
by Ted Harwood on Sep 16, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
It is one of the more common spoken ones, that even I fall prey to once and a while (working on it), but punctuation errors and simple word misuse in written work is far more aggravating for me. I mean, is to, too and two that hard? Let alone comma and colon vs. semi-colon usage?
I don't know why
but for some reason, misuse of ‘less’ and ‘fewer’ is in my top three grammatical pet peeves. It really bothers me.
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by Thomas Wachtel on Sep 16, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
If you can definitively measure it, you use fewer. Otherwise, less.
“There are fewer people in this bar tonight.”
“There is less anger, but more acceptance at Arsenal’s current run of form.”
by Learn2Leaf on Sep 16, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Of course, now that I think of it, there are some muddy areas, as always with English. Like money. You can easily talk about something costing less, even though you could count the difference. I think it is also acceptable to talk about money (I have less money today that yesterday) and be OK. However, talk about the bills or coins, it again switches to fewer (I have fewer nickels than you do.)
it's the distinction between a mass noun and a count noun
if a noun can be thought of as discrete units, like dollars or apples, it’s a “count noun”, and one uses “fewer”. If a noun can only be thought of as a pile or a mass of glop, like gravel or pudding, it’s a “mass noun”, and one uses “less”.
by Ted Harwood on Sep 16, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Except pudding described as a mass of glop doesn't sound very yummy.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 16, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
your dorm must've been better than mine
by Ted Harwood on Sep 16, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Most likely was.
I had a suite and the dorm was built pretty recently.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 16, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
True story:
Once, while shopping at a Sam’s Club, I passed a couple of college age guys with one of those flat-bed style carts loaded with about 20 5-gallon cans of chocolate pudding. One of them said, “Okay, now we need to find the kiddie pools.”
Captain, there are doubt's...
"It’s a good opportunity to show we have the strength to respond"
"C'est pourquoi quand je vais en enfer, un jour, il sera moins douloureux pour moi que vous, parce que je suis habitué à la souffrance."
- Arsene Wenger, 2011
I am unsurprised.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
I'm Levon.
And I’m Barry. Sagittarius.
I didn’t even have to watch the clip. I knew exactly what you were talking about.
Captain, there are doubt's...
"It’s a good opportunity to show we have the strength to respond"
"C'est pourquoi quand je vais en enfer, un jour, il sera moins douloureux pour moi que vous, parce que je suis habitué à la souffrance."
- Arsene Wenger, 2011
by Match Day 5 on Sep 20, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
That's basically what I said, sorry i didn't have my grammar book on hand.
But the money example is still valid of a problematic area. You never say something costs “99 cents fewer” even though you probably should.
It's all good - if you read below, I do this a lot with Science.
Which actually makes it quite impressive that I have any competence with English.
Double flagged.
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by Thomas Wachtel on Sep 16, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
The drinking age in England is approximately six and a half so a 19 year old bartender is not a rare thing there
There's a drinking age in England?
I just thought all of Europe was on the honor system with that
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by Thomas Wachtel on Sep 16, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
If you can see over the bar, your legal
Or that’s how it went up at Newcastle, lol
F.F.F.
"Do you think we need one more...? You think we need one more... Alright we'll get one more"
by UMDfutbol11 on Sep 16, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Officially it's 18
By that I mean 7.
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Dream goal!
by Aidan Gibson on Sep 16, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
When I was there last (which was around my 18th birthday) we were told that most places will allow at 14 year old a drink during a meal, especially if there with parents.
I know it's a different country and all
but one of my best friends from college is Italian (as in his dad is an immigrant and he spends summers with family in like Milan, not like Jersey Shore fake-Italian), and he’s been drinking wine (like with dinner, in relatively age-appropriate amounts) basically since he can remember. Which is definitely how I plan to raise my children.
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I write a bit for The Short Fuse.
by Thomas Wachtel on Sep 16, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
The French do that too.
A glass of red wine with dinner even for the children. It is actually good for your heart.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
by ClemsonGirl on Sep 16, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw a documentary on that
Apparently red wine is extremely useful for keeping your arteries from clogging. Good for preventing heart disease.
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by silverace99 on Sep 16, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, it's pretty well true.
My lab did some studies on one of the chemicals in red wine that leads to this protection. Thing is, it is the chemical, not the wine. You’d get the same benefits and probably more by eating grapes. The benefit actually can be measured in your bodies ability to manage the alcohol because in most people, one glass is good, over two is bad. Alcohol eventually overtakes the benefits and turns red wine into a detriment.
Yeah I was going to say that obviously you shouldn't drink the whole bottle.
And be like, “But it’s good for my heart!”
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
The French and Italians.
Obviously.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
Basically unless you look/act like a little dickhead they'll serve you without asking questions.
At least where I’m from.
Calm down Aidan :P Chill out, grammar nazis.
The result against Swansea was perfectly fair, I don’t know where you saw us going 2-3 up. They defended pretty well and came agonizingly close to nicking a goal themselves on a couple occasions.
I don’t think the reporter interviewed only negative Arsenal fans. I think he probably heard both positive and negative things from the same fans but only chose to print the negative. Shoddy journalism indeed. Also, going to 1 bar and treating it as a representative sample of all Arsenal fans is equally shoddy.
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On the note of Sports reporters getting fidgety...
It is hard not to root for someone you watch week in and week out year after year. Most sports reporters cover the same people most of their careers and want to cover successful teams because when the team you are covering is successful it gets your name out there more because more people want to read about the hot team. This is what makes them fidgety.
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
Bad joke
I can’t seem to get out from under this large blanket-like object that has fallen on me. It is light blue with white puffy cotton-like wisps. Any ideas?

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