Arsenal 1 - 2 Manchester United, match report: not good enough, points not gained on rivals
0 - 1 Antonio Valencia 45+1'
1 - 1 Robin van Persie 71'
1 - 2 Danny Welbeck 80'
Arsenal lost to Manchester United today in a match that had periods of ascendancy for both clubs, but more chances for United, and those taken better, made the difference in the end. The defeat for Arsenal means they fail to make up ground on Chelsea, Spurs and Newcastle, and they have nobody but themselves to blame for a sub-par performance all around yet again. Here's how it went down:
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain was a surprise inclusion in the front four for Arsenal, and Thomas Vermaelen returned at left back. Arsenal had the better of the first two minutes, Chamberlain breaking down the left and trying to find Robin van Persie in the six-yard box to no avail. Both sides enjoyed spells of possession before Chamberlain fired in a cross from the right that Anders Lindegaard claimed easily. Aaron Ramsey had a pop from 20 yards on eight minutes, but Lindegaard saved easily. Arsenal were really bossing possession, but aside from a couple of long chances, had generated little final threat.
United looked to attack on the break, Ryan Giggs spraying an attempted through ball for Antonio Valencia, but Laurent Koscielny was alert to the danger. Arsenal looked to counter themselves on 14 minutes, and as Walcott came down the left, Phil Jones went over under no contact with some kind of leg injury. He was stretchered off, a harsh blow for United. Rafael da Silva came on in his place.
United looked dangerous on a 17th minute corner, but Arsenal were able to finally clear. 22 minutes in, Johan Djourou did well to deny Nani a cutback, but United won another corner, which it took a while for Arsenal to try to clear, Giggs finally attempting a near-post shot that Wojciech Szczesny saved.
Arsenal generated their best chance 25 minutes in, Tomas Rosicky robbing MIchael Carrick in the midfield and feeding the Ox on the right. He got past Patrice Evra easily, but his pass for Walcott ended up being shot well wide by his compatriot. United tried to spring free the otherwise-invisible Danny Welbeck, but Laurent Koscielny was up to the task, haring back to deny Welbeck a shot. 30 minutes in, Giggs earned a free kick from Vermaelen and rifled it in, but Johnny Evans headed it out for a goal kick.
After the free, though, United started to grab control. Arsenal struggled to clear their lines for the next two minutes as Nani and Evra combined really well on the left. 35 minutes in, as the pressure stayed on, Alex Song made a huge mistake to let Evra past him to the byline, his cutback lashed on goal from Nani, Szczesny saving well. Two minutes later, Rooney thought he had a penalty, but Mike Dean (!!!!) said that he embellished, a lot, and did nothing. Valencia tried to break on the right, but Thomas Vermaelen ended that right quick with a serious tackle.
Djourou did his best to free Nani into the area, missing his tackle badly on 41 minutes, but Nani's attempt to curl around Szczesny from a tight angle was woeful. Ramsey was booked 43 minutes in for holding back Giggs, the very definition of a professional foul.
Arsenal were struggling to do much, but Ox was around, and he made Rafael look silly before feeding Rosicky for his customary wide shot. Rafael was booked afterwards for touching the Ox, which is clearly illegal in all jurisdictions and galaxies.
Nobody touches the Ox.
Nani continued to trouble Djoruou as halftime loomed, and United knew it--they kept feeding him and letting him go to work. He wiggled free for a shot on 46 minutes, but Szczesny was able to save.
They wouldn't hold on. Giggs attacked the increasingly worried Djourou, and he slung in a great far post cross. Vermaelen could have done better to head it away, but Valencia just came in from behind him and nodded it back across Szczesny. 1-0 to United, easy as pie, right before halftime. A horrible time to concede.
Halftime arrived. It was a pivotal moment of the season, really.
Johan Djourou would not be around much longer, as Nico Yennaris readied himself on the touchline. He started the second half. Almost immediately, Robin van Persie limped off with some kind of knock to his knee, but it wasn't serious enough to keep him off the pitch for very long, thankfully.
The half was pretty drab until 51 minutes in, when Rosicky pounced on a Chris Smalling error to break in free on goal. Instead of shooting, he squared for van Persie, who took one touch, set himself up, and...missed. He just missed. It was a sitter, and he missed. In related news, I will be living in a snowbank for the next six months.
Ramsey shot over from 16 yards two minutes later. Sadness.
Valencia somehow shot at the inverse angle to the cutback that Nani gave him on 57 minutes, but United seemed to have regained their stability, until Arsenal broke through van Persie. Ramsey couldn't quite get to his cutback, but the ball fell for Rosicky, whose shot was blocked. It was a good effort, though, and Arsenal looked to buck up a little from then on.
United had ceased pressing, and space was opening up for Arsenal. To their credit, the players were trying to take it. 62 minutes on, the Ox had a shot from 20 that missed by six inches, Lindegaard beaten. United were still around, though, and Nani played Evra through, wrongly called for offside, but Szczesny saved.
Welbeck did really well to get past Per Mertesacker a minute later, and fluffed the ball past Szczesny, but Mertesacker came to the rescue, stretching every bit of his 6-6 frame to clear off the line.
Welbeck made it through again on 67 minutes, and Szczesny dove out to try to stop him, but appeared to hurt himself. The goal was open, but United didn't score, and the big Pole got some treatment as United lined up their corner, which Szczesny claimed.
Arsenal were on the back foot, but maybe they were rope-a-doping. Koscielny did amazing work to dispossess Rafael in the area, and started a counter. The Ball came to Ox, who fed RvP with a delicious through ball, and this time RvP did not miss. A clean shot across Lindegaard, which he got a finger too, but the ball nestled in at the far post.
1-1. Game on. 20 minutes left.
Ox would come off for Andrei Arshavin on 74 minutes. Nobody really knows why.
United, on 77 minutes, would bring on Park Ji Sung, Arsenal Killer, for Rafael. Valencia would drop back to right back.
Yennaris put in a cross that Walcott tried really hard to get onto 78 minutes in, but Lindegaard was there to claim. In the process, Walcott hit his head very hard on the ground, and was down for a minute before woozily leaving the pitch.
Paul Scholes came on. That is all.
If Arsenal were in the ascendancy, it wouldn't last. Arshavin made some pretty poor attempts to stop Valencia's run into the box, and his challenges only squirted the ball to Danny Welbeck, who lashed home. It was woeful, and it was 2-1.
Park Chu Young came on for Aaron Ramsey on 84 minutes, Arsenal needing something, anything.
They got two yellow cards, which was fun. The first went to van Persie for questioning United's time-wasting, which was silly from Mike Dean. Rosicky then tackled hard, and was given an actual yellow card for an actual offense.
There were four minutes left in regular time.
Nothing happened.
There would be five minutes of extra, which United would dutifully waste. Crosses would come in from Arsenal to a very crowded area, but Arsenal were unable to put them home. Time ticked on. Mertesacker headed towards goal, but Evans blocked.
It was Arsenal's last chance. United would take all three points, and Arsenal would fail, once again, to pick up points on those around them. It's a familiar story, and the main reason the Gunners are where they are in the table.
Next week: Villa, in the Cup.
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Step 1 – take your best player on the pitch
Step 2 – put on Arshavin
Step 3 – prosper
by LouisMurphy'sLaw on Jan 22, 2012 1:11 PM EST reply actions
Sorry, I subbed off my grammar check for Arshavin so the above post makes no sense.
by LouisMurphy'sLaw on Jan 22, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
Your forgot the ????
Which was appropriate for Step 2 anyway.
by arrogantmonkey on Jan 22, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
Lying just to cover up a manager’s bad decison is a horrible thing to resort to. Please stop lying to the fans. Alex was not cramping. Read alex chamberlains post match interview and it’s clear that this was not a forced change
Nobody "lied".
There was information out there that he was cramping, and now he’s said that it’s the manager’s decision—which doesn’t necessarily exclude it being a forced change either.
by Ted Harwood on Jan 23, 2012 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
Also, when I read AOC's comments
I really do not see anything but support for the manager. I really don’t.
by Ted Harwood on Jan 23, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
"lied"?
You really think that TSF is lying to the fans? Or that you know more than both AOC and Wenger? AOC is right, at the end of the day it’s Wenger’s call, and he made that call. I don’t agree with the substitution, but I also don’t have the information that Wenger had so I have to accept it.
Who is on Fox Soccer Live
trashing Wenger and really hitting the “we” ?
Ahh. Thanks
He was getting agitated. I thought he was some famous ex-player or ex-coach – I felt guilty for not recognizing him.
He purports to be a major Arsenal fan
but seems just to enjoy slagging Wenger and the plays. During the pre-game, touted that he is a season-ticket holder for 26 years. Though not sure how many visits have been made in the last year or two that he has been blowing hot air on CNN over here.
by KC Gunner on Jan 22, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You read my mind...
…although I do agree with him that we need to bring a back in. I really just don’t understand the reluctance. Although I think Yennaris played well defensively, he need a lot of work on his crosses. They were pretty horrendous until maybe at the end.
I don't think you have to attend actually sit in the seat
Presumably, he’s given his tickets to someone else and isn’t just letting the seat sit empty. I know his brother has a pub over there, perhaps he donates the seat to a charity? We don’t know. Since he works a few thousand miles away, it’s a little much to expect that he would fly back once a week. As long as his check doesn’t bounce he still supports the club.
Captain, there are doubt''s...
I wasn't worried about the seat being empty
I was merely expressing a desire for him to be at the stadium rather than on my TV.
by pdb on Jan 22, 2012 9:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
fair enough
I happen to enjoy him but i understand that a lot of people don’t.
Captain, there are doubt''s...
December 31: " it would be stupid for us to drop points because we don’t have a left back."
…
Arteta, it's all about the right pass it goes left to the left foot of VAN PERSIE
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I dont wanna be a pest but...
can someone please explain to me why we havent fired arsene wenger ive only been watching soccer for like 3 years now, and i know about the whole undefeated season and youth development or whatever, but i dont mean much if you keep selling the good ones….what exactly is he contributing to the team??!!?!!?
by CHOCOLATERAIN09 on Jan 22, 2012 1:27 PM EST reply actions
Go watch 15 years worth of back soccer matches and then answer your own question
Arsene Wenger will never be fired. He built what you saw today – the stadium, the team, everything. He did this. Arsenal are having an off year, but calling for Wenger’s head is stupid. Don’t be stupid.
To be a little more level headed about it
Wenger’s substitutions today were baffling, to say the least. But that doesn’t mean he deserves to be fired. He’s still one of the best managers in the world – Arsenal, though, are not in the elite tier of teams that includes Manchester United. I’m not surprised they lost – this team is so decimated by injuries right now there were at least three players playing out of position today – and I’m certainly not going to start lighting things on fire or demanding firings for no real reason, and you shouldn’t either.
ok that makes sense, ill take your word for it
ill keep the faith in wenger, i just hope they get better soon these effin Man U fans are always in my ears _
by CHOCOLATERAIN09 on Jan 22, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
They're basically Yankees fans and easily tuned out
Once Manchester United start losing a couple games they’ll shut up and go be Manchester City fans anyway, so don’t take them seriously.
It's like, Arsenal have suddenly decided to pick up the mantra of the Chicago Cubs...
’Don’t Score, Just Suck"
The sad thing was that, we played well enough to garner a draw, but luck didn’t fall in our direction. If RVP levels that shot that went just wide, this is a 2-2 draw and it could have changed the way the game was played, but alas, none of that happened, Ox was taken off for woeful Arshavin who therefore continued to suck as he usually does, and it cost us the game, wonderful… We’re only five behind Chelsea, and considering that Chelsea isn’t exactly looking all that great themselves, it’s not like we couldn’t catch up, but making up ten points on Spuds is going to be rough, and continues to look more and more unlikely. Hopefully the returns of Wilshere, Sagna, and Gervinho give us the tools we need to make a late season run…
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I think Arsenal played well enough to draw in the second half
but the first half picked up right where they left off against Swansea.
hes too busy taking Xavi and Iniestas jobs. This won’t be popular but as I watch him in barca, I realize hes just as good as each of them, if not better.
This team will be the death of me.
not lower, younger.
that’s why he left, cause there were too many playmakers.
Captain, there are doubt''s...
Have you seen Spain's team?
The Spain team in the World Cup in 2010 was ridiculously strong, and they’re still one of the best. Spain is the best producer of talent on earth at the moment, so being low in Spain’s pecking order isn’t really an indication of Cesc’s lack of quality.
if only we had 2 plus messi, we'd have been just as successful as them.
Captain, there are doubt''s...
Was there any reason given for Henry not making the bench?
I don’t think he would have made a huge difference, but maybe if Henry’s on the bench Wenger doesn’t sub in Arshavin?
Hurt, I think
Arteta, it's all about the right pass it goes left to the left foot of VAN PERSIE
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by Aidan Gibson on Jan 22, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
I figured there had to be something
Usually there’s a good reason why someone comes off, especially one who has been playing well.
As for replacing him with Arshavin, well, there’s the rub…
Golden Corral would have easily kept Rooney and Welbeck at bay
Like honestly, who couldn’t see Rooney at an all you can eat buffet? lol
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if ox was cramping
I have no problem with arshavin coming on.
by Ted Harwood on Jan 22, 2012 2:26 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
If that was the case...
…I fully agree. Arshavin has to step it up. AOC needs to start every match from now on. There is absolutely no reason not to.
I just watched the replay
Right after RVP scored, Ox was involved in another counter and the commentators made a comment along the lines of “Ox will be staying out a little longer, he was signalling that he wanted to come off” or words to that effect. This was a few minutes before he actually did so it looks like it was legit.
Captain, there are doubt''s...
I would've preferred Yossi.
Arteta, it's all about the right pass it goes left to the left foot of VAN PERSIE
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by Aidan Gibson on Jan 22, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
Memo to the Arsenal training and medical staff:
Matches last 90 minutes. Prepare your players accordingly.
I would like to point out that Ox is an outlier here
He still isn’t even 20 and yet he’s putting in some of the most miles in the match. Most of the players can go that distance, but he’ s so young, I can’t blame him, nor the staff. Now, as for some of those never ending injuries…
This team must be getting frustrated
Especially players like RVP, Kos, and Scez who are clearly giving it their all. A lot of people are simply not stepping up consistently enough to be good (Arshavin, Theo, Park, etc) and our injury bug has claimed too many key pieces. Poor Ramsay. The guy recovers from a nearly career ending injury and has had to throw the midfield attack on his back all season. When he’s rested he impresses, when he’s not he looks gassed.
There has been bad luck all season, although there has been perseverance and fight. It just hasn’t been enough.
I think everyone needs to calm down
Ok, yeah, we lost, and yeah, it sucked. However, it’s Manchester United. It’s OK to lose to them on top of that, Spurs and Chelsea dropped points so we have a little bit more room to make it up. Anyone else remember how we all thought it would be a miracle if we didn’t get steamrolled here? Well we didn’t get steamrolled. In fact, this was a great improvement over the Swansea game. We got to see Ox rip players apart. Wenger proved that Park at least exists and shows some promising signs of usefulness. Also, Verminator came back today, and he was great. Kos was also good in back. Mert had a quite wonderful save.
Now, I feel that the issue at hand is our midfield. In this game, I feel it was hard to argue the fullback dilemma, though I am sure it really affected our game. Usually, we need fullbacks to overlap in order to find holes in the defense. This time, the problem was in the buildup. And that illustrates three things.
1) We need Arteta back
2) We really need Wilshire
3) Ramsey is just a bit over his head here considering that he’s not really even playing his natural position. He should have had a bit more time to comeback and develop.
Now, just chill, it’s not all Wenger’s fault. It’s not the team’s fault. It’s not even entirely Arshavin’s fault. Think clearly and rationally, and reach a conclusion without erupting into the madness that Morgan has quite clearly descended into.
by Adnan Ilyas on Jan 22, 2012 2:54 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I'm thinking very clearly and rationally when I say that I never want to see Arshavin again
There is no shame in losing to Manchester United, and this was a much closer game than that last debacle. However, that does not mean I’m happy with the way the game played out. Arshavin has no business being on the pitch, and Wenger needs to understand that sooner rather than later. This is a very banged-up team right now, and there’s no way they can fire on all cylinders when there are so many guys out/playing out of position, but that doesn’t mean I have to be happy with what happened.
Well there are signs of Wenger's changing opinion of Arshavin
He decided to start an 18 yo kid today over him today when everyone thought Wenger would have started him. But as you know Wenger will defend his players to the death, so he won’t come out in public with it, as evidenced in his post match interviews defending the substitution. Gervinho being gone at the ACN just exposes Arshavin’s inabilities even more now and I highly doubt Wenger is blind to it, there’s just not much he can do about it at the moment.
(all due respect)
It’s not OK to loose to manunited. It’s not OK to loose to anyone. You play to win the game.
This team will be the death of me.
It's OK to lose as long as you fight hard while doing it
The second half showed that, the first half did not.
right.
I can agree there. I just wanted to make the point that accepting losing is not productive.
This team will be the death of me.
Is this the last we see of Djourou at RB?
I wouldn’t be surprised. Yennaris did well enough in the second half
Can Djourou play LB?
I know he fills in every where back there.

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