Arsenal transfer rumours: Wenger likes Eden Hazard...but.
Arsène Wenger spoke to the Belgian press today regarding Lille dynamo Eden Hazard, and Arseblog News was on the case. As one would expect, the manager had only glowing things to say about the Lille man:
I like him a lot, and for several reasons. His creativity, his ability to unbalance the opposition, his vision and his consummate art of giving the final ball make him a player coveted by many.
Hazard has the right profile to play at a top level club, and Arsenal is a top level club.
Hazard is obviously one of the best young creative midfield players in the world right now, and he has spoken of his desire to play in England next season. One would have to be a fool, though, to imagine that Manchester United and Arsenal are the only possible destinations, especially given the wages that Hazard is likely to command.
There's one other thing, though, too, that Wenger said, as Arseblog notes:
You have to know that at every season’s start, Arsenal must imperatively make a profit of between £15m and £20m. I’d add to that that one of the missions of a coach is to always buy at a price he judges to be right.
There's no disagreement there. All of us here generally love the way Wenger manages a sustainable transfer policy and long-term vision for the club, and as Arseblog notes, that quote is missing a lot of context: 'Yet, it’s one line in an interview which really needed the reporter to follow [it up]", and Arseblogger rightly wonders where exactly the profits result from in the end. Still, Wenger said it, and the fact that he said it in the same interview where he praised Eden Hazard may suggest that he's trying to tamp down runaway excitement.
I'm not a fan of huge transfer fees in general, and luckily for me, Arsenal avoid that particular gamble. However, besides fees and matters of profit (which may be outside the transfer budget anyway, as noted), the main concern that Arsenal have in terms of attracting fresh talent to the squad is wages. Simply put, Arsenal are not going to pony up the kind of wages that three of the five clubs above them will. Coupled with the weirdness in the wage structure overall--players who haven't proven themselves making far too much, and thus being harder to transfer to other clubs--and the fact that long-serving talent like Robin van Persie comes first in negotiations for better wages this summer, it's unlikely that a player like Hazard would choose Arsenal over say, Manchester City or Chelsea.
And frankly, if I had my druthers, I'd prefer that Arsenal kept it that way. The club's wage bill is very high, without a concurrent reflection of that position on the league table so far this season. A bit of a clear-out may be needed when possible. One only has to look at Newcastle for an example of a club who are making a great deal out of not a lot of money lately to be reminded that it is indeed still possible. So while Hazard may not end up joining the Gunners in the summer, and while it seems that profit in some shape is necessary, and while NOBODY ON EARTH would be happier than I would be were Hazard to join up, Arsenal will probably bring in a Montenegrin player nobody's ever seen actually kick a ball before.
As long as Wenger has sufficient time to do things carefully, though, I have faith that he will make good moves. Recent history is on his side: Thomas Vermaelen, Laurent Koscielny, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, hell, even Samir Nasri (BOOOOOOO HISSSSS) came with plenty of time and thought put into the deals. It was only last summer when things got weird, and the reasons for that have been beaten to death. Wages that are too high for some squad members, coupled with Arsenal's reluctance to pay on the scale of the "big three" in England, mean that Hazard probably won't be in red and white come July, but there's perhaps a less pricey alternative currently plying their trade in Germany or France or Portugal or somewhere than can join up.
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now me sad
maybe we can sign his little brother as a consolation prize.
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That would be very Arsenal of Arsenal
I am sad, too, but once the links to other clubs started up for Hazard, the writing was on the wall. Arsenal’s wages just aren’t right at present.
me no likey our wage structure
Pay people what they’re worth dammit.
Also, Arshavin is sitting on a big pile of money. Free up some of that and we CAN buy a good player.
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by 3k on Feb 7, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
arshavin laughs at your lack of photoshop
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Feb 8, 2012 6:26 AM EST up reply actions
arshavin laughs at your lack of photoshop
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Feb 8, 2012 6:26 AM EST up reply actions
yay double post
Arshavin laughs at my double post
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Feb 8, 2012 6:27 AM EST up reply actions
It's amazing to me that just in my lifetime sports has totally turned the salary scale upside down
From the dawn of professional sports through about when I was in high school (late 80’s), athletes – in all sports – were paid for performance, not potential. A kid fresh out of college or a first year graduate of an academy got a bare-bones contract for three years or so, and if they performed well they then got to cash in and sign that fat contract. Now it’s flipped – teams pay for what a player might become, and then every subsequent deal is worse – or as people have said, players become unsellable.
I'd rather see other areas strengthened with the money it's going to take to get Hazard
We are in crying need of a reliable LB and, if Wenger plans to keep The Ox out wide for the foreseeable future, another striker/forward to either back up RvP or replace him if/when that time comes.
Of course I wouldn’t piss nails if Hazard joined (and realistically he’s not joining based the reason Ted outlined), but Arsenal are currently in a position where they need to spend based on necessity rather than luxury and an attacking winger is, in my mind, low on the priority list. When he moves to one of the big clubs not named Arsenal, I won’t be shocked or saddened a bit.
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by Twin Cities Hawk on Feb 7, 2012 1:47 PM EST reply actions
Me neither
But I’d argue we’re facing better attacking wing players in the league currently with our haphazard set up.
"I know you're from Middle America, and sometimes you feel like you're representing more than just a school or a conference, maybe an entire group of American citizens out there."
by Twin Cities Hawk on Feb 7, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
The best defense is a good offense!
That’s not really an over-used cliche, is it?
Captain, there are doubt''s...
It's pretty much narrowed down to three teams
And that’s Chelsea, City, and Madrid. I guess you could throw both Milan’s in there, but I doubt they would put out that much cash. We won’t be in it obviously. United will probably grab Sneijdar for less than what Hazard would go for. Barcelona clearly don’t need any central midfield help (damn them…). Hazard wants to play in England, sure, that’s what he says… But that definitely won’t stop him from going to Spain when Madrid come knocking on the door with 45 mil., a decent sized contract, and offerings of constant sun and pleasant women…
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The contract is the kicker
Maybe the sun, but definitely not the women. I mean, have you see Lucy Pinder?
"I know you're from Middle America, and sometimes you feel like you're representing more than just a school or a conference, maybe an entire group of American citizens out there."
by Twin Cities Hawk on Feb 7, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
Lucy Pinder is Spanish?
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English
What I was saying, apparently unsuccessfully, was that he’ll find women no matter the destination. Especially in England.
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by Twin Cities Hawk on Feb 7, 2012 6:01 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Yeah
there isn’t really an incredible shortage of attractive ladies in England. Particularly London.
WRITTEN IN THE STAAAAARS, A MILLION MILES AWAAAAAAY
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by Thomas Wachtel on Feb 10, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
I’m just very curious as to what the final transfer fee will end up being and what clubs will be involved. We all know who’s lurking but I don’t think it is a foregone conclusion. Lille waited and waited and now it seems that the Hazard market kinda closed up on them. I don’t see anyone who will be falling over themselves to get him really.
This team will be the death of me.
And I have $20
So who has the other $49,999,946?
by King Oskar on Feb 8, 2012 8:45 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I have $3.25
I spent the other $1.75 on chex mix and orange juice.
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by Aidan Gibson on Feb 8, 2012 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
Chex Mix AND Orange Juice for only $1.75?
You must live in the Midwest.
I couldn’t PISS for $1.75 here in CA
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Midwest, moi?
I live in the Nor’east
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Orange juice in the midwest is outrageous
like $4+ for a gallon, damn you Tropicana and your deliciousness…
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At this point his value will also be influenced by Euro 2012 this summer
If he has a good tournament, it’ll go up.
by pdb on Feb 8, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
So, we want a poor/average performance
His price stays the same/ goes down, and less interest. Arsene being smart, picks him up. Everyone, put in $24. If we can get a million people to donate, we will have enough!
I wouldn't worry about that
Belgium isn’t in the tournament. Ill say this-do you really see him going to Chelsea if they aren’t in CL?
by arrogantmonkey on Feb 8, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
My bad, I don't really follow international tournaments at all
And yeah, I can $ee him going £here for a lot of rea$on$.
by pdb on Feb 8, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
I think
That if that’s his concern, ¢h€£$€A are the perfect place for him
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by Aidan Gibson on Feb 8, 2012 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
I'm really not worried at all if he goes to Chelsea
Think of it this way, they’ve spent a combined 90+ mil. on Torres, Mata, Luiz and Cahill and you know what, they still suck…
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Can you imagin Hazard and Ox alongside Van Persie for the next 5 years?
Drools
Hell, throw in Gotze as well. We’ll be the EPL’s Barcelona!!!!
…well, a 4-5-1 Barcelona …
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Hells yea! We'll be rollin
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This would be where the height = 300 part of the rules post would come into play, as an example
(not to single you out)
by Ted Harwood on Feb 10, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
He cannot be contained!
Captain, there are doubt''s...
by Match Day 5 on Feb 10, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
naw it's cool
I may or may not have had a few beers when I posted this… so the photo size didn’t really come to mind right away, the idea of RVP being a boss did though
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