Fabio Capello resigns from England post
The implications of Mr. Capello's resignation from the England manager job for players like Theo Walcott, Jack Wilshere, and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain remain to be seen, but for now:
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Well let's just say
he’s not the only Italian to abandon a sinking ship
by Nathaniel Perlow on Feb 8, 2012 3:09 PM EST reply actions 8 recs
Here's my rec
Take it, you brilliant bastard.
"I know you're from Middle America, and sometimes you feel like you're representing more than just a school or a conference, maybe an entire group of American citizens out there."
by Twin Cities Hawk on Feb 8, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
Hey-OH!
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Feb 9, 2012 6:58 AM EST up reply actions
I've heard rumors the FA canned him cuz he wanted to keep Terry as captain.
by Nathaniel Perlow on Feb 8, 2012 3:12 PM EST reply actions
I think it's more that they didn't ask him first
I’m not sure that means he would’ve kept Terry as captain.
That's exactly it, according to The Guardian...
Capello went on Italian TV last weekend to proclaim that demoting Terry was a mistake and to assert that, whatever the formal position, the Chelsea man would remain, in his eyes, the de facto captain.
He was upset they went over his head because he wouldn’t demote Terry himself. He resigned because of control issues.
Definitely. Capello is a well-documented control freak.
He didn’t like not having total control over the team. (Which frankly he shouldn’t have. His handling of the Captaincy has been all over the place, the FA had to demote Terry, he had brought on too much controversy)
by Roa on Feb 8, 2012 8:35 PM EST up reply actions
If the manager doesn't have total control of the team, he ought to resign.
I don’t have any particular love for Capello (though I think the nine league wins with four teams in two countries and the Champions League win say a bit for his managerial expertise in general; whether that can translate to a national side is certainly debatable) but if I’m going to be asked to manage a team, I’m probably going to want to actually be in control of it, rather than acting as a puppet for the FA.
WRITTEN IN THE STAAAAARS, A MILLION MILES AWAAAAAAY
I write about the Arsenal for The Short Fuse.
by Thomas Wachtel on Feb 9, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
Unless the manager is a Wenger or Furgie, he shouldn't get total control
Managers are there only for a few years. They should have control over most things, including who is the captain, but not everything because of how a few poor results can cost a job.
If you don't trust a manager enough to let him do his job, don't hire him.
Or at the very least, split the job like is usually done in the US, with a field manager and a general manager in charge of making squads and such. But for Christ’s sake, if you aren’t going to let your manager pick his own damn captain, that’s just bizarre.
WRITTEN IN THE STAAAAARS, A MILLION MILES AWAAAAAAY
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by Thomas Wachtel on Feb 9, 2012 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
Thing is Capello hasn't handled the Captaincy well.
He stripped Terry of it after the Wayne Bridge WAG Banging Affair of 2010 and then has flip flopped around captains before giving it back to Terry who proceeded to incur another scandal by racially abusing the brother of a senior team mate. The FA had no choice but to take some action.
The stats show Capello won games, but he didn’t inspire any real confidence and he was gone in the summer anyway. Best it happens now even if England end up with a dud at manager like we probably will.
by Roa on Feb 9, 2012 6:46 PM EST up reply actions
One can now hope and pray that Harry Redknapp gets the gig, right?
If only because I want to see them try and bring in Juande Ramos again. That was fun.
"I know you're from Middle America, and sometimes you feel like you're representing more than just a school or a conference, maybe an entire group of American citizens out there."
by Twin Cities Hawk on Feb 8, 2012 3:31 PM EST reply actions
wtf is England thinking?
Not that they really had a shot to win Euro anyways, not against full-strength Germany and Spain at least
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He didn't have enough passion
And no one can beat Stuart Pearce for passion.
Arteta, it's all about the right pass it goes left to the left foot of VAN PERSIE
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I can't wait for till he tries to call up Ox for every single nat'l team he's eligible for
Get bent, Stu.
"I know you're from Middle America, and sometimes you feel like you're representing more than just a school or a conference, maybe an entire group of American citizens out there."
by Twin Cities Hawk on Feb 8, 2012 7:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well I wasn't expecting us to win anything at Euros anyway.
Next manager can’t do much worse than Capello as far as winning. England have young players coming up now, hopefully the new manager moves on to them rather than trying to force the Terry/Lampard/Gerrard generation to continue.
He actually has (I believe) the best winning percentage of any England manager
since non-Home Nations countries started playing. At the very least, he was the winningest recent manager. He certainly didn’t win a World Cup, but let’s be honest – England doesn’t have the players to win a major tournament right now. They may be coming, but those players (Wilshere, Ox, whoever the hell else because I don’t give two shits about non-Arsenal England players) aren’t quite ready to take over yet.
Just because he didn’t win a tournament doesn’t mean he was useless. You have to play with the cards dealt to you.
WRITTEN IN THE STAAAAARS, A MILLION MILES AWAAAAAAY
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by Thomas Wachtel on Feb 9, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
If England want to win, they should play as Great Britain
not that that would ever happen. Anyway, I thought Ericksson had the better record.
I don't think making a Great Britain team will matter that much
Aside from a few Scots and Aaron Ramsey, nobody else will really contribute that much, odds are the Great Britain soccer team for the Olympics will be virtually all English as well…
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Ramsey and Bale would be really good in the future
Don’t know about Scots. Add in a Rooney, Wilshere, Walcott, Ox, and you have a better team. I have a feeling that the England side of the old generation would have been better with Giggs in there. But England is too small now to stand much of a chance at winning a World Cup.
I don't think they're that small
Their population is just a bit smaller than that of France and Spain, and it’s a footballing nation, with the occasional cricket and rugby player thrown in between. They have the talent, but it just hasn’t come together like it has for Spain and Germany recently.
And I totally forgot that Bale was Welsh, that’ll help out some…
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I read about this in Soccernomics, but I don't quite remember why England always suck
But it has to do with being separate from the continent and the size of the country. But you are right, France isn’t that much bigger. But, once again, Scotland, Wales, and N Ireland would really help…
Erikkson had a lower losing percentage
Capello lost 1/7 while Erikkson lost slightly less then that. Instead, he drew a lot more games.
Sven did better in major tournaments. Capello had a better winning percentage.
I’d take Sven in a heartbeat. (Not the current one though damn you, I was really excited when Leicester snatched him up but he didn’t do a thing despite the talent our new owners let him buy)
Capello’s major flaw is just not inspiring anything from the supporters. Yeah we’d win but it would be a grinding win after a poor performance. England isn’t near say Spain or Holland for a minute but we shouldn’t be getting flaky wins or draws against countries like Montenegro and Wales.
by Roa on Feb 9, 2012 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
They are theoretically fielding a Great Britain team for the Olympics
and almost nobody anywhere in the islands wants it to happen, except England.
If you ask me, it's a load of crap
I’d understand N Ireland joining the Republic, but the Scots and Welsh by themselves? Both benefit greatly from having ties with England. I mean, seriously, what large cities are in either Wales or Scotland? Don’t say Glasgow, it’s not that big. England at least has Manchester and London. Scotland and Wales don’t have the power/population to do much of anything internationally. And that extends to soccer. There is a reason why only England qualifies for tournaments regular (or, really, at all). Wales and Scotland have produced talent, but nowhere near enough of it to stand a chance.
by Adnan Ilyas on Feb 10, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
The funny thing is that England is the one that wants it
Scotland, Wales, and to a lesser extent NI don’t want to do it at all.
The population of London is nearly as large as Scotland and Wales put together
The separatists ideas seriously make no (logical) sense to me.
London~7million
Wales ~ 3 Million
Scotland~5 million
by Adnan Ilyas on Feb 10, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
The US has a population of over 350 million and yet can't turn out a consistently top-flight national team
Population has very little correlation to soccer excellence. And again, the idea to have a GB team came from the English, not from the Scots or the Welsh.
That is because the US has had a comparatively short soccer history
Population size strongly correlates with winning tournaments, but history matters more.
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